Monday, March 26, 2007

Interesting Article by Matt Knapp ("Oklahoma Squatch")

It has long been speculated that Bigfoot type creatures have the ability to see in the infrared spectrum. There are many people who have the opinion that this is why there are no clear photographs of the creature taken with an infrared triggered device, such as a game tracker camera. This topic has also come up during conversations in regard to the implementation of nightvision devices in the field as a means to try and spot one of these creatures hiding in the darkness. Nightvision devices normally require the usage of an infrared emitter that appears as a spotlight when viewed through the nightvision scope. Some believe the Bigfoot creatures can see this infrared "spotlight" and avoid it accordingly.
In hunting, hunters apply techniques and equipment to conceal themselves from being spotted by their game. Some of these are based on the principles of vision in the specific animal they are hunting. For this reason, as a Bigfoot researcher, I found it beneficial to learn what I could about vision. If a person were to find out certain information about vision in mammals and primates, they could possibly use that to their advantage while in the field. That coupled with the speculation about infrared is what directed me in my own research on the subject of vision capabilities in mammals and specifically primates.
During my research, I kept running across papers and published scientific journals all written by the same person. I would also notice on papers written by various people, that in their acknowledgments and works cited, a lot of them mentioned articles written by this same man, GH Jacobs. So I took it upon myself to search out this GH Jacobs, which I was able to do. To find out more about who he is, you may look here: http://www.psych. ucsb.edu/ people/faculty/ jacobs/index. php
The man is a leading expert in the field of mammalian and primate vision. The website provided his contact information, so I thought who better to ask than an expert on the subject. At first I was a bit reluctant to contact him. For one, I was leery about explaining why I wanted to know the information, and two, I didn't want him to think I was some crazy person attempting to get some sort of backing, either financial or academically, for Bigfoot research. Not that it wouldn't be great, but that was not the reason for my inquiry. After some deliberation with myself, I decided to just be up front and honest in my email. To my surprise, he responded to my email rather promptly. The following is the context of both emails in their entirety.

My name is Matthew Knapp, and I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm what one might call an anomalous wildlife researcher. I avoid the term "cryptozoologist. " I will admit however, my greatest field of interest is the "Bigfoot" phenomenon. That is in fact why I am writing you. I have no college degrees, any research or investigations I do is during my own free time, and any expenses come straight out of my own pocket. I understand the scientific community's reluctance to investigate this sort of thing, or to provide any type of funding to someone like myself to help with further in depth investigation. What I am looking for though is some information that could prove valuable in my own endeavors. Please keep in mind I am far from being some sort of fanatic or crazy person. I'm just a man who has seen and experienced things that warrant my own further investigation and research.
I have read several papers you have written on mammalian and primate vision. I come from the belief that if "Bigfoot" actually does exist, it would be some sort of higher intelligence primate. It has been speculated that this creature might be able to see in the infrared spectrum. This is usually said to explain why there is a lack of photographic evidence coming from game tracker cameras that have an infrared trigger device. If we go by sighting reports, even if only a small fraction of them are accurate, we can reach the conclusion that these creatures would be either nocturnal or crepuscular. For sake of argument if that were true, how possible would it be for their vision to reach the ranges it would take to see in the infrared spectrum? Are there in fact mammals out there that can see in the infrared spectrum? Along with that, if an animal were to be able to see infrared, are there any color ranges it would not be able to see, such as blue or ultraviolet? I would also like to know how close the color vision is of great apes and other primates to that of our own. For example, do gorillas see as many colors as we do? It is my own understanding that nocturnal vision lacks color. So it's difficult for me to understand if you are dealing with a nocturnal or crepuscular animal, how it could see in any color spectrum at all, including infrared. Any answers or information you could provide me with will be greatly appreciated, I just humorously ask you not to hold my particular field of interest against me. If nothing else, I hope it brightens your day a little just to know that a non-student layman such as myself appreciates your work and expertise on the subject. Thanks for your time.

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Mr Knapp,

Here is what may be relevant to your interest. No primate, indeed no mammal, has visual sensitivity tuned to the infrared. The mammalian gene family that specifies the long-wavelength sensitive pigment cannot produce a pigment with a spectral peak longer than about 560 nm. And there is seemingly good reason why no mammal has infrared sensitivity. That is because we abundantly emit infrared and those emissions would swamp any photopigment tuned to infrared, thus rendering it unusable. The biological infrared receptors that have proved useful are all in cold-blooded animals, e. g., the pit organs of some vipers.

To your other points:
1. All Old World primates (apes, monkeys, ourselves) share in common their photopigments and, to a large extent, all their visual capacities.

2. Some mammals (mostly rodents) do have visual receptors tuned into the ultraviolet, but as I noted above they do not have any infrared sensitivity.

Hope this helps.

Jerry Jacobs
So there you have it. According to a leading expert on mammalian and primate vision, there is absolutely no chance they would be able to see within the range of the infrared spectrum. The only alternatives to this is that they are either cold-blooded, or they do not fall in biological accordance with any other mammals, let alone primates, living on our planet.
Matt Knapp
Tulsa, OK
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    This was a great show, with our good friend Bill Green discussing the latest happenings in the Bigfoot world, including a controversial article by Loren Coleman on Cryptomundo. Our Associate Producer, James Baker was also with us and asked some great questions of Bill. We also discussed a certain disruptive individual and challenged him to call the show, but he didn't take the bait. It was still a great show though, and we had fun doing it. The next program will be Wednesday night and will be a discussion of the recent Bigfoot Live program which had Greg Long, Philip Morris and Bob Heironimus on. Then, our next guest next Sunday will be ABS President Melissa Hovey. Our Wednesday program begins at 9:30 EST, and the Sunday program starts at 9:00 EST and both can be found at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sasquatchexperience As always, please tune in and support great research.

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    A few things to consider about Bob Heironimus’ tall tale./For those who have not read Greg Long’s book

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    1) He and his attorney tried to sell the story in the late 1990’s


    2) He initially told Greg Long he had nothing to do with Patterson’s attempted Bigfoot documentary.

    I can tell you all I know about Patterson in about five minutes.” p 145

    I didn’t, you know, run around with him, I just knew him.” p 146

    Were you part of that movie? No,” he answered flatly. p 147

    Yeah, I knew who he was, and I rode horses with him a couple of times, you know, and you know, this is just riding in the mountains. That wasn’t any film documentary or anything.” p 148

    So are you saying you weren’t in that movie he was producing? Well, I’m not going to say that. No.” p 149

    How many hours do you think you spent with Patterson?...My whole life?...I don’t know, maybe two days.” p 151-2

    Long comments: “He had denied anything to do with movie on the South Fork.” Long knew that was a lie because he had a picture showing Heironimus among a group of cowboys photographed during Patterson’s failed attempt to make a documentary. p 154


    3) After studying his first taped interview Greg Long states, “When I finished, I concluded that I didn’t believe Bob Heironimus.” Mrs. Long’s reaction, “He’s lying.” p 152.

    But after Heironimus changes his story to what Long wants to hear: “I can’t find any evidence of Bob’s being a liar.” p 425. He could have found the evidence in his own words in his own book.


    4) Heironimus claims there was an ape suit in his car trunk (in this case in his mother’s car and at her home) for just a single day after he got back from California. In Long’s book five independent witnesses tell of him having such a suit in his car at other times and places. None saw it at his mother’s place.


    The first time Long heard of Heironimus he was told about the suit, and that it was in Heironimus’ car for a long time. Les Johnson -- “There was an ape suit. Bob Heironimus wore it.”….”I was in the Idle Hour Tavern in Wiley City.” ….”Bob Heironimus said that in the back of his Buick—he had a blue Buick—was an ape suit, or a suit. They were talkin’ about this suit. …”Everybody in town talked about it.”… “They were making fun about this suit, like, ‘We’re going to fool everybody’.”…”The Idle Hour Tavern’s where we’d go to congregate, lie to each other, and tell these big stories and try to make out like we was somethin’.”.

    Long asks, “Do you remember any discussion about Bigfoot, or Bigfoot pranks?”

    All the time.”…..”He apparently carried this thing in his car for a long time.” p 47-48


    Gary Johnson – “That suit Bob wore was observed in the trunk of a car right outside that famous water hole down there in Wiley City.” p 51


    John Ballard – Long asks him, ‘Was Heironimus capable of running around like a Bigfoot in the Yakima Valley?” Ballard, “Not beyond him. I think he did it to scare people.”…”I’ve heard rumors, yeah. Just like the rumor of Bob Heironimus having the Bigfoot suit, which was made out of horsehide.”… I never saw it, but what I heard was it was gray horsehide. I heard it was in Bob Heironimus’ car.”p 232


    Merle Warehime – “Bob Heironimus was the guy who wore the monkey suit. It was always a joke.” When Long suggests Heironimus might have put on a costume to help Patterson convince the public of the existence of Bigfoot, Warehime responds: “I don’t think it was that complicated….It was kind of fun, go get drunk, put the suit on and run out in front of somebody, you know.” Long says he was told that the suit was in Warehime’s Circle Inn Tavern and Warehime says he has heard that but it was when he was gone for a couple of days. “So you never saw the suit yourself?” “In the back of the car, yeah.” “Oh, you did see it?”…”I believe we were out in the Ahtanum by that old church.” p 331


    Bob Hammermeister – “Yep. It was probably at Wiley City. There was a bunch of us…I seen something in the car, a big old pile of fur there was what it was…I think it was in the trunk.”

    Did Bob say it was a Bigfoot suit?” “ Yeah.” p 397


    Hammersmeister is the only one who mentions seeing the suit after the Patterson movie was made. The others were talking about the previous year when there was a rash of local reports of Bigfoot sightings, or perhaps even earlier.

    These statements set out clearly that Heironimus was the one who had an ape suit and that he was using it to stage Bigfoot ‘sightings’ for the amusement of himself and his friends A connection with Roger Patterson is suggested only by Greg Long, and in one case is specifically denied--although making a fool of Patterson may have been the origin of the game.


    5) Heironimus drew a map of his supposed trip to Bluff Creek, indicating that he met Patterson and Gimlin at Willow Creek and they drove west from there before turning onto the Bluff Creek Road. Long, who knew that Willow Creek was many miles west of the Bluff Creek turnoff persuaded him to change his story. p 347-8 and 366-7


    6) Heironimus told of seeing a rodeo banner at Happy Camp on his way to Bluff Creek. Long later learned there had never been a rodeo at Happy Camp and decided it must have been a banner for the Bigfoot Jamboree on Labor Day weekend, therefore the film must have been shot in early September—weeks before the leaves would have turned red. p 420


    7) Heironimus drew a map of the area where he said the film was made, showing that they went two and a quarter miles up the Bluff Creek road to the place where they were camped, and another half a mile to the film site, a total of two and three quarter miles from the Klamath highway. p 366. The actual distance, on a twisting dirt road, is more than 10 times that.


    8) Heironimus not only does not know where the film site is, he is also not at all familiar with the film, since it shows Patterson and Gimlin with three different horses, and he mentions only two, even claiming that he had to ride double behind Gimlin. p 348


    9) To anyone who saw the film site before time altered it, Heironimus’ story makes it immediately obvious that he was never there. He tells of Patterson and Gimlin helping him to put the suit on and to stand up, then, “I started walking. I came to the creek. I walked through the sand.” p 349

    He does not know that the creek bottom is not sand, but slippery rocks that are best walked on carefully, or that on the far side he would have encountered a vertical cut in the bank of the sandbar which was more than two feet high (it shows in the film) that would have been an unforgettable obstacle for a man in a suit with legs so stiff he needed help to get to his feet from a sitting position.


    10) Heironimus continued, pointing at a map he had drawn, “I walked across here—through a few trees right here, maybe a downed log in here and some brush. Anyway I turned right here and looked at them. I looked back twice. I walked a little ways further towards these trees right here on the right. They said ‘Cut! That’s it!’ Here’s this big blow-over [uprooted tree]. I jumped down in this hole.” … “Why did you jump in the hole?” “I was afraid of getting shot’…. “It was October, you know. They did have hunters down there.” P 349


    He is obviously not aware of what is plain on the film, that the creature was always on the same side of the creek, that for a considerable time it disappears from the camera’s view as it walks through the trees, that when it emerges it is much too far away for anyone walking beside a noisy creek (and supposedly wearing a padded headpiece) to have heard anyone say anything. Aside from that, since the sandbar is in the creekbed there could never have been a large tree there to blow over and leave a hole.


    Note also that although Heironimus places the event in October, and in hunting season, later he apparently accepts Long’s conclusion that because of the “rodeo banner” the filming must have been in early September. Heironimus’ readiness to change elements of his story whenever someone else proposes a different version suggests that he thinks that the others may be telling the truth and might even be able to prove it, while he knows that he is lying.

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    For those who have not read Greg Long’s book, and those like me who failed to appreciate what they were reading, there is on pages 47 and 48 a very clear outline of the actual role played by Bob Heironimus. In recounting an interview with Les Johnson, an Ahtanum Valley rancher, Long writes:

    “There was an ape suit. Bob Heironimus wore it.”

    I couldn’t speak. Had I found the man who played Bigfoot in Patterson’s film? Was the mystery over?

    “Bob Heironimus,” I finally managed to let out.”

    “Yep, Bob Heironimus,” he repeated with a big grin. “I was in the Idle Hour Tavern in Wiley City. There were fifteen or twenty guys, some of the guys that hung around with Roger. The guys were drinkin’ and talkin’ about things they had been doin’. Bob Heironimus said that in the back of his Buick—he had a blue Buick—was an ape suit, or a suit. They were talkin’ about this suit. Someone said, ‘What are you talkin’ about?’ And someone said, ‘Go and look in the back of Bob’s Buick.’ The guys were teasing each other about it. Everybody in town talked about it. There were lots of guys who sat around and talked about it.”

    I probed deeper into his memories of this event. He recalled that among the onlookers grouped around Heironimus’s car were the Ridge Runners, members of a jeep club. Johnson was either walking toward to (sic) the tavern or leaving it. “I heard them talkin’ when I went by. They were laughin’ and gigglin’. They were makin’ fun about this suit, like ‘We’re going to fool everybody.’ I mean, I got that opinion. But you couldn’t fool us. We all lived here.” He chuckled and then added: “The ‘monkey suit’ is what they called it. There’s four Heironimus boys, Bob, and Bill. Bill worked for me for a while. Then there’s Howard and Mike. The Idle Hour Tavern’s where we’d go to congregatge, lie to each other, ad tell these big stories and try to make out like we was somethin’.’

    I asked, “Do you remember any discussion about Bigfoot, or Bigfoot pranks?”

    “All the time.”

    “Inside the tavern?”

    Everywhere. It was just a hoax to me. And the group that we run with were all cowboys. We were up there in the hills runnin’ cows,, and you never seen any of those guys up there. It all took place down at the gab station [the Idle Hour Tavern].”

    Farther down the page, Long asks:

    “Who is this Bob Heironimus?”

    “Well, I think he works for Pepsi-Cola. He must be getting’ old enough to retire. He apparently carried this thing around in his car for a long time.”






















    Friday, March 16, 2007

  • Bored? Visit a tourist trap!
  • Review: USBRA Radio 3-16-07

    This was a pretty wild show, with the ever-controversial Jon-Erik Beckjord, who gave out his theories on what he thought Sasquatch was, as well as taking calls from various people (some of less-than-stellar qualities). One gentleman representing an organization based in Arizona called several times and basically agreed with Beckjord on his paranormal theories. Beckjord was very civil and respectful and seemingly calm. He basically called me out on my assertion that a Sasquatch that he found a trackway of which basically stopped in the middle of a snowfield was the creature stepping backwards in its own tracks. He does not believe that. Still it was a good show, even a bit controversial.
  • Bigfoot found near Helena!
  • Ivory-Billed Woodpecker Once More a Ghost
  • Tenacious D-Sasquatch

  • Tenacious D-Papagenu (He's my Sassafras)

  • USBRA Radio Tonight...

    It's gonna be a wild one, with the ever-controversial Jon-Erik Beckjord joining Steve and Robin Pickett on their program tonight. The show can be found at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/USBIGFOOTRESEARCHASSOCIATIONRADIO and starts at 10:00 EST/9:00 Central Should be...interesting.

    Cryptomundo Stories and Anomalous Headlines

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    New Fossil Find: Yanoconodon


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    New Bonobo Population Discovered

    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-snapper/

    New Brazilian Snapper

    http://biofort.swampgasbooks.com/2007/03/16/saying-goodbye-to-an-illinois-cougar-tracker/

    Saying Goodbye to an Illinois Cougar Tracker

    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-clouded-leopard/

    New Clouded Leopard

  • Rocky Mountain Bigfoot Investigation
  • Thursday, March 15, 2007

  • Bigfoot Callers
  • OPERATION NIGHTSCREAM
  • More Crypto-Stories

  • Three-Toed Sloth


  • That rare bird flies back into the picture


  • Scientist challenges ivory-billed woodpecker sighting
  • Crypto-Headlines

    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/faqs3/

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    Lithgow mega-cat footage goes live

  • New Bigfoot Documentary Goes On Sale Soon
  • Review: Bigfoot Live 3-14-07

    This was a wild marathon 3-hour show, with guests Greg Long, Philip Morris and Bob Heironimus, giving their versions of proof that the Patterson Movie is a hoax. M.K. Davis represented the pro-side very well, showing files he was given exclusive permission to use by Mrs. Pat Patterson. Pat Holdbrook was also a guest, defending the Patterson Movie and also promoting his movie project based on the work M.K. did on the film. M.K. and Long, Morris and Heironimus had some heated discussion, but Tom Biscardi, the host, handled things quite well. The show was quite balanced and unbiased, and I got to call the show and ask Long, Heironimus and Morris the questions I have been waiting three years to ask ever since this controversy started. So did Chris Murphy and Steve Pickett, as well as others. It was a great show. Great job to all concerned. The archive is now available
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  • Update: Manitoba Bigfoot Video
  • Wednesday, March 14, 2007

    DVD Review: On The Trail Of The Pacific Northwest Sasquatch

    This nearly hour-long documentary profiles the Washington State Sasquatch Search Group in the field in the late-'90s in some truly beautiful country at the base of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. Researchers such as Andrew Peterson, George Kelley, John Pickering and Fred Bradshaw are out to find evidence of the hairy bipeds in the area, and one team member stumbles across some strange foot, hand and elbow prints near a muddy creek. They also find flattened-down trees and set out game cams as well to catch something, perhaps a Sasquatch, on film. They film all sorts of wildlife, such as elk, raccoons, bear, salamanders and birds, really giving the viewer an idea of the diverse animal life in the area. If nothing else, it gives the viewer a relaxing look into the Pacific Northwest and its beauty, and is really highly-recommended.

    No "Sasquatch Experience Lite" Tonight, But...


    Tom Biscardi is hosting the marathon 3-hour show on Bigfoot Live Radio on the Patterson Movie. Guests will be Greg Long, the author of The Making of Bigfoot; Philip Morris of Morris Costumes who claims to have made the gorilla suit and sold it to Roger Patterson; Bob Heironimus, the man who claims to have worn the suit in the Patterson Movie; M.K. Davis, amateur astronomer and 10-year pioneer of studies into the Patterson Movie and Pat Holdbrook, producer of the upcoming movie project devoted strictly to the Patterson Movie and M.K.'s work on it. The show starts at 10:00 EST/9:00 Central and ends at 1:00 A.M. EST/12:00 Central. The show can be found
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  • Biologists review cougar sightings in Maine


  • WANTED: Dead or alive?


  • Animal sculptor reveals Black Cat encounter


  • Tuesday, March 13, 2007

    14 Researchers Make Unprecedented Bigfoot Discovery

    http://www.nwcn.com/news/washingtondetail.html?StoryID=803010-3-00
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    Imprint left in soil of Bigfoot's lower half

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    One of the Northwest's biggest mysteries, the Sasquatch, also known as Bigfoot, is no longer a legend - it's alive, according to researchers who have discovered what they say is its imprint.

    Deep in the northwest mountains, a team of 14 researchers tracked the elusive primate-type beast for a week deep in the mountains of the Gifford Pinchot national forest.

    The imprint appears to be a hair-covered body lying down on its side, reaching over to get some fruit, the researchers said. Thermal imaging confirmed that the body print was only hours old.

    From the imprint, they created a 250 lb. plaster cast of what they say is the lower half of the Sasquatch.

    "We actually almost missed it," said researcher Derek Randels. "It dawned on us all at the same time, and it was overwhelming."

    "These heel impressions weren't made by a person getting in the mud wallow and squirming around," said Dr. Jeff Meldrum of Idaho State University.

    The trackers gathered hair samples that will be analyzed by DNA testing. They also made voice recordings of what they think is the Sasquatch wailing, also being sent off for analysis.

    The creature is believed to be 7 to 8 feet tall, weighing 800 to 1,000 lbs. The researchers believe there are hundreds just like it throughout forests in the Northwest.

    There are a lot of sightings, they added, but estimate that more than 90 percent of sightings go unreported for fear of ridicule.

    "This cast is very hard to argue with," said Randels. "We have had a lot of very intelligent people looking at it in the last two days and I think it's just going to be a heck of a shot in the arm for the credibility of the creature's existence."

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    March 13, 2007

    ATTENTION: BIGFOOT BELIEVERS AND SKEPTICS

    The Bigfoot Live Radio Show will bring

    together five key figures to discuss

    the facts and controversy behind the

    making of the famous "Roger Patterson"

    Bigfoot film.

    When: Wednesday, March 14, 2007, 7:00pm-9:00pm PDT

    Where: Listen to it Free on internet radio at

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    For more information: Robert Barrows, R.M. Barrows, Inc. Advertising

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    ATTENTION BIGFOOT BELIEVERS AND SKEPTICS

    Say it ain’t so, Joe...OR, The truth shall set you free...Maybe!

    First Loch Ness, now Bigfoot! Get ready to listen in to an internet radio show as another famous piece of controversial monster film is set to get outed on Wednesday, March 14th, 2007 from 7:00pm-9:00pm Pacific Daylight Time, at www.bigfootliveradioshow.com.

    A guest list of of five key figures will discuss the facts and controversy behind the making of the famous "Roger Patterson" Bigfoot film in 1967. In that film, Patterson shot the most famous footage of the creature known as Bigfoot - and now, you will hear from the person that claims to have worn the Bigfoot costume and another person who claims to have made the Bigfoot costume. Plus, you will also hear from several other guests who will add even more comments and controversy to Bigfoot lore.

    Listeners can tune in for free to listen to "The Bigfoot Live Radio Show" hosted by Bigfoot explorer C. Thomas Biscardi, founder of Searching For Bigfoot, Inc., headquartered in Menlo Park, California (www.searchingforbigfoot.com). Biscardi has been hosting this weekly radio program for seven months and this show is going to be the first time that all these people will be talking live on the same program, according to Biscardi, and Bigfoot believers and skeptics are invited to listen in and find out the facts about the controversial "Roger Patterson" film.

    Was it a man in a monkey suit, or was it really the creature commonly known as Bigfoot?

    "Tune in and decide for yourself," says Biscardi, "it’s going to be a very exciting program."

    The show will feature the following guests:

    Bob Heironimus: This is the man who claims to be in the Gorilla suit that allegedly was purchased by Roger Patterson. Mr. Heironimus has taken two polygraph tests and reportedly, passed them both.

    Phillip Moris: The man who alleges that the gorilla suit in the Patterson Film was commissioned by Roger Patterson himself, and was made and sold by Mr. Morris.

    Greg Long: The writer who published the story about the Patterson discovery - The name of his book, "The Making of Bigfoot."

    Pat Holbrook: Movie producer who just completed the movie using the work of M.K. Davis’s Stabilizations and study of the Patterson film for more than ten years. Mr. Holbrook appears confident that the famous Patterson

    film is accurate and it’s not a man in a monkey suit.

    M.K. Davis: An amateur astronomer who has devoted ten years of his life to dissecting the Patterson film through stabilizations and modern technology, and for the first time ever, will reveal and show on www.bigfootliveradioshow.com, new startling evidence why he believes that this is not a man in a gorilla suit.

    So, is Bigfoot real or just a myth? Biscardi himself has seen Bigfoot creatures six times over the past 34 years of tracking and studying information about the creature, and from March 29-March 31, 2007, Biscardi will be leading an expedition to try to capture a Bigfoot in a swampy area outside of Paris, Texas. The expedition will also be filmed as a pilot for a reality TV show called "Capturing Bigfoot," to be produced by Ron Lyon of Big Cat Productions (www.wizardsofweird.com.)

    The expedition is being conducted by the Granite State Paranormal Society. For additional information and for reservations to join this expedition, contact Jim Snell at The Granite State Paranormal Society in New Hampshire. People interested in joining the expedition should be in excellent health and experienced in the outdoors. Additional details on releases and waivers will be available through The Granite State Paranormal Society at 646-652-6529.

    Discussions are currently underway for the media, merchandising and ancillary rights to this expedition and the "Capturing Bigfoot" series.

    For further information regarding television, film and related media, submit all inquiries to Robert Barrows, President of R.M. Barrows, Inc. Advertising and Public Relations at 205 Park Rd., #208, Burlingame, CA 94010, Tel: 650-344-1951.


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    BOSTON TIMES ; MONDAY MORNING , APRIL 1, 1839.

    When will wonders cease? Robert Lincoln ESQ: Agent of The New York Western Lomber Company. He just returnes from the St. Peters River near the head of Steamship Navigation, on the upper Mississippi, bringing with him a living Anerican Orang Outang, or Wild Man of the woods, with two small cubs supposed to be about three months old.Mr. Lincoln informs us that he went out to the North-West as Agent for The York Lumber Company, in July last, with the view to establish intense saw-mills, on the Pine lands near the falls of Saint Anthony ; and he has given us a detail of the operations of the company, and the circumstances which lead to the capture of the extra ordinary creatures mentioned above.

    Article continues about lumber exploration then continues at their camp;-

    About the 15th of January, two of the carpenters who had been out in pursuit of a gang of Wolves that had proved very troublesome, came into the camp and reported that they had seen a huge monster in the forest, on a branch of the Mississippi,, having the form of a man, but much taller and stouter, covered with hair, and of freightful aspect. They stated that when first seen, he was standing on a large log, looking directly at them and the moment they raised their muskets, he darted into the thicket and disappeared. They saw him again in half of an hour, apparently watching them, and when they turned towards him he again disappeared. Mr. Lincoln was at first disposed to think lightly of this matter, believing that the men might have been mistaken about the size and height of the object, or supposedly it might have been a trick of the Indians to freighten them. He was informed, however, by some of the Natives, that such a being had often been seen on the Saint Peters, and near the falls of the Mississippi, and they postponed to guide a party of the workmen a Bluff where it was thought he might be found. The men were all ready for an adventure, and arming themselves with rifles and hunting knives, they started for the Bluff under the direction of Mr. Lincoln and the Indian guides. On the way they were joined by several of the Natives, and the whole party numbered twenty-three.

    They arrived at the Bluff late in the afternoon on the 21st of January, and encamped in a cave or grotto, at the foot of the hill. Early in the morning, two Indians were sent out to reconnoiter, and in about an houtr returned, and said they had seen the wild man, on the other side of the hill. The whole party immediateltprepared for the pursiut. Mr. Lincoln gave positive orders to the men, not to fire upon him unless it should be necessary fo self-defence, as he wished to take him alive. The Indians stated that although a very powerful creature, he was belived to be perfectly harmless, as he always fled at the approach of men. While Mr. Lincoln was giving his men the instructions, the wild man appeared in sight. He ordered them to remain perfectly quiet, and taking out his pocket glass surveyed him minutely. He appeared to be about eight or nine feet high, very athletic, and more like a beast standing erect than a man. After satisfying himself with regard to the character of the creature, Mr. Lincoln ordered his men to advance. The I ndian had provided themselves with ropes, prepared to catch wild horses, with which they hoped to ensure and bind the creature, without maiming him.

    The instant the company moved toward the wild man, he sprang forward with a loud and freightful yell, which made the forest ring ; the Indians followed close upon him, Mr. Lincoln and his men brought up the rear. The pursuit was continued for nearly an hour - now gaining upon the object of their chase, and now almost loosing sight of him. The trees, however, were quit open, and free from underbrush, which enabled them to make their way very rapidly. Whenever they came very near him, he stared forward again to yell, and appeared to increase his speed. He finally darted into a thicket, and although they followed close and made much search, they were unable to find him.

    They then began to retrace their steps toward the place of encampment, and when within about a mile of the cavern, the wildman crossed their path, within twenty rods of the main body of the party. They immediatly gave chase again, and accidently drove the creature from the forest and into an open field or prairie. The monster appeared to be much freightened at his situation, and leaped forward, howling hideously. At length he suddenly stopped and turned upon his pursuers. Mr. Lincoln was then in the disadvance. Fearing that he might attack them or return to the woods and escape, he fired upon him and lodged a charge of buckshot in the calf of his leg. He fell immediately, and the Indians sprang forward and threw their ropes over his head, arms and legs, and with much effort succeeded in binding him fast. He struggled, however, most desperately gnashed his teeth, and howelled in a freightful manner. They then formed a sort of litter of branches and limbs of trees, and placed him upon it, carried him to the encampment. A watch was then placed over him, and every effort made that could be devised to keep him quiet, but he continued to howl most pitiously all night. Towards morning two cubs, about three feet high, and very similar to the large monster, came into the camp, and were taken without resistance. As soon as the monster saw them he became very furious - gnashed his teeth, and howled, and thrashed about, until he burst several of the cords, and came very near effecting his escape. But he was bound anew, and after that was kept most carefully watched and guarded. The next day he was placed on a litter and carried down to the mills on the Saint Peters.

    For two or three days, Mr. Lincoln says, he refused to eat or drink, or take any kind of food, but continued to howl at intervals for an hour at a time. At length, however, he began to eat, but from that time his howls ceased, and he has remained stupid and sullen evr since. The cubs took food very readily, and became very active and playful. Mr. Lincoln is a native of Boston, and some of the workmen engaged at his mills are from the city. He arrived here Saturday afternoon in the brig St. Charles, Stewart, master, from New Orleans, with the wildman and the cubs, and they were all removed from the vessel that evening. By invitation of Mr. Lincoln, who is an old acquaintence, we went down to his rooms to examine the monster. He is a horrible looking creature, and reminds us very strongly of the fabled satyrs, as we have pictures them in our mind. He is about eight feet three inshes high, when standing erect, and his frame is of giant proportions in every part. His legs are not straight , but like those of a dog and other four footesd animals, and his whole body is covered with a hide much like that of a cow. His arms are very large and long, and ill-proportioned. It does not appear from his manner that he has ever walked on "all fours". The fingers and toes are mere bunches, armed with stout claws. His head is covered with thick, course, black hair, like the mane of a horse. The appearance of his countenance, if such it may be called, is very disgusting - nay, almost horrible. It is covered with thinner and lighter coat of hair than the rest of his body ; there is no appearance of eye brown or nose ; the mouth is very large and wide, and similar to that of a babboon. Mr. Lincoln says he is beyond dispute carnivorous, as he universally e4jects bread and vegitables, and eats flesh with great avidity. He thinks he is of the ourang, outang species ; but from what little we have seen, we are inclined to consider him a wild animal, somewhat resembling a man. He is, to say the least, one of the most extraordinary creature that has ever been brought before the public, from any part of the earth, or the waters under the earth, and we believe will prove a difficult puzzle to the sceintific. He lies down like a brute, and does not appear to possess more instinct than common domestic animals. He is now quite tame and quiet, and is only confined to a stout chain attached to his leg.

    This is the first creature of the kind, we believe, ever found on this contenent. It was to be expected, however, that in penetrating the remote recesses of the new world, monsters would be found, and great natural curiousities brought to light ; and it has been a matter of surprise to many that so little of the marvelous has ever been discovered. But we can not tell what the wilds of the far North-West, the shores of Lake Superior, the regeons of the Rocky Mountains, andd the vast territory of the Oregon, may yet bring forth.

    It is Mr. Lincolns intention to submit these animals to the inspection of the sceintific for a few days, in order to ascertain what they are, and after that to dispose of them to some persons for exhibition. Mr. Lincoln himself will return to the Saint Peters in the course of two or three weeks.

    P.S. Mr. Lincoln informs us that he will exhibit the wild man and his cubs, gratuitously, this afternoon, in the rear of No.9 Elm Street. We presume that our citizens will not be slow to take advantage of this offer..

    SDSMT says it doesn't have body of a Bigfoot

    By Tom Lawrence, Black Hills Pioneer August 11, 2006
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    RAPID CITY -- Of course they'd deny it.
    The South Dakota School of Mines and Technology doesn't have the body of Bigfoot, the school announced in a press release Wednesday.
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    Breanna Bishop, SDSMT's public information coordinator, issued the unusual press announcement Wednesday morning. The release was sent after an Internet site "reported" that the body of one of the mythological creatures was on campus after it had been shot near Slim Buttes last week.
    "According to a report appearing on a number of blogs, Bigfoot was shot and killed Tuesday, Aug. 1, on the Pine Ridge Reservation," the release states. "After a smudging ceremony, the body was allegedly transported to a School of Mines laboratory for studies."
    The body was supposedly seen and given a ceremonial treatment by three Lakota elders, including Wilmer Mesteth and Oliver Red Cloud.
    "Tell them it's a bunch of baloney," Mesteth said Wednesday in a telephone interview. "I think someone is playing a practical joke."
    He said he was starting to get phone calls from people who had heard the report. He said Red Cloud is an amputee who does not travel and could not have gone to the site of the Bigfoot shooting.
    Bigfoot, which is referred to as "Chiye-tanka" or "The Big Man" is in some books about Native American culture and spirituality.
    SDSMT chose to play the story as a joke.
    "Despite receiving nearly $14 million in research and development funding in the 2006 fiscal year and having a wide array of cutting-edge research initiatives, the School of Mines has no facilities dedicated to Bigfoot or other cryptozoology research," the release stated.
    You can read the Bigfoot "news" at
    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/prbigfootshot/ or at http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/prtimeline/
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    ©The Black Hills Pioneer, Newspapers, South Dakota, SD 2007

    Bigfoot Encounters Website

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    Cowlitz County Washington 1980 May

    At one of Ray Crowe's Western Bigfoot Meetings, someone brought up the topic of corpses of sasquatches after the May 18, 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens in Washington State. The witness heard of two sasquatches the Army Corps of Engineers had taken out of the volcanic devistation, this was two months after the inital blast.

    Terry Reams heard of a dredging operation of the Cowlitz River and two bodies were found in the sand (probably same case?). A chopper flew them off.

    Joe Beelart offered that the crane doing the dredging was from the Manatowaka Company and that the bodies were found two weeks after the Mt. St. Helen's blast of May 18, 1980. He suggested that somebody might want to track down the company and find out who was working the shift that the bodies had been found on.

    Source: Track Record #91 .. During a tour of the devastation by helicopter in 1985, the Viet veteran helo pilot mentioned a similar tale to Bobbie Short saying there were military helos that choppered out nets full of burned and semi burned elk, deer, bear and something with hairy charred arms hanging out of the drop nets. They were taken to a common pit where the bodies were burned to avoid disease and contamination of the rivers. (it might be the same story as above)

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    IBS Report #: 3493

    Location: COWLITZ county, WA. UNITED STATES

    Sighting Type: 1

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    Month: MAY
    Year: 1980
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    Data Source: TR 91 SEPT 1999
    Credibility: 3
    Locality: MT ST HELENS
    Researcher: Fred Bradshaw
    Witness: MR Bradshaw

    Sighting Type: 1
    Summary: DEAD BF FROM MT ST HELENS SEEN

    Sighting Text:

    TR 91 SEPT 1999 *

    Fred Bradshaw report concerning dead Bigfoot bodies near Mt. St. Helens.

    My father worked for Weyerhauser Co. at Green Mountain ,WA, east of Vancouver. The site has security on their roads to check on the equipment and check closed areas to keep people out.

    My father was working the day Mt. St. Helens blew up. He was at a meeting in Kelso, WA, and as he was a supervisor, when Mt. St. Helens blew it's side out, all heck cut lose.

    My father was sent back to Green Mountain right away but like most he wasn't allowed to go very far because of the mud slide coming down the river. He did get to the town of Toutle, WA, on highway 504 off I-5. He and his crew were placed at different spots to watch mud flow and of course help people get out of the blast zone after the major blow up. He was sent to the area of Sprit Lake to keep people out.

    When the second major blow up of the mountain came, my father and the other guy with him reported in, and they got out of there.

    He was then placed in charge of the helicopter landing zone. It was his job to help keep people out of the landing zone and let aid crews in so they could care for injured.

    Later. when all the people were out and bodies out, the National Guard was brought in to clean up. They hauled dead animals out that they placed in piles; deer in one, elk in another and so on. They were covered up with tarps and later burned.

    But my father was placed in charge of one pile of dead that were covered and no one was allowed to go near. Armed U.S. National Guard personal were around this pile, and one day when they were going to move this group of bodies, and my father was very close to it and was told to keep his mouth closed. And when the tarps were removed he saw the creatures, some badly burned and some not. They placed them in a net and lifted them into a truck and covered it over. My father asked a guardsmen what will they do with them and he said study them or what ever...he didn't want to know. He said it's like other things you don't ask, and off they went . AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. My father and the rest were debriefed and sent home.