Friday, November 16, 2007
Review: Beyond The Edge Radio 11-16-07
This was a wonderful show, probably the best yet, with UFOlogist Stanton Friedman, who discussed quite a few subjects, including Roswell (which he was the first civilian investigator of), the UFO situation at Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, his books, his investigations into famous UFO cases such as the Barney and Betty Hill abduction story, his recent appearances on Larry King Live and Coast To Coast A.M. and other topics. Brian Seech called in and asked some excellent questions to Stanton and won an autographed copy of Stanton's book on Barney and Betty Hill. Bill Green and myself won a Lloyd Auerbach book and a CD from Shane Spiel. It was the best show that has been produced from Beyond The Edge Radio since its debut, and what a wonderful show. Of course, Scott Hackenslash came along at the start with his Horror Movie Reviews, tonight with a review of the new horror flick Thirty Days of Night and a promised review of Beowulf next week. Next week in the post-Thanksgiving Black Friday show, Sean and Eric's guests will be Paranormal Investigators Brian and Terrie Seech, next Friday at 9:00 EST/8:00 Central at the link to the right. As always, we encourage you to please tune in and support great research.
Anomalous Stories
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Mystery creature in Baker County not monkey or Bigfoot - likely ...
Florida Times-Union - Jacksonville,FL,USA
A Bigfoot research commission also called Holmes to ask about the creature. Holmes told the Times-Union Friday afternoon that it's interesting how these ...
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Venable: We enjoy getting the bird
Knoxville News Sentinel - Knoxville,TN,USA
When I was writing last Tuesday's column about alleged Bigfoot sightings in Tennessee, I didn't realize there was an oh-fish-yul Web site right here in our ...
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Canadian Tire big box blasted as "ecological bigfoot"
Georgia Straight - Vancouver,British Columbia,Canada
David Cadman lambasted the project as an "ecological bigfoot". Brent Toderian, the city's planning director, has recommended approval of Canadian Tire's ...
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A tribute to the teat
HeraldNet - Everett,WA,USA
Officials say it could be an orangutan, but they haven't ruled out Bigfoot. Or it could be that the hunter's target is smarter than the average bear and ...
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Schaeffers Research - Cincinnati,OH,USA
Others are seriously investigating whether it was a 'baby Bigfoot'"... If you live in Baker County, please be aware of this - there could a large squirrel ...
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Strange Wilderness Poster
CanMag - Brea,CA,USA
To boost its ratings, the flock pictured below goes on a hunt for Bigfoot. Strange Wilderness opens to theaters on February 1st, 2008.
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A 110 million-year-old plant eating dinosaur with a mouth made for vacuuming up plant matter has been unearthed in the Sahara Desert and named Nigersaurus taqueti in honor of the country in which it was found and French paleontologist Philippe Taquet. And from Cryptomundo, another dinosaur find, but this time from "the dungeon": Doctoral Pupil & Darren Discover Dino, with photos.
Recent film of an unknown creature or creatures in a volcanic lake on the border of the People's Republic of China and North Korea has supposedly been explained by 77-year-old Kim Li-tae, who claims to be one of the researchers who released nine trout into Tianchi Lake in 1960. Could these trout have "mutated" to the form seen in the recent film? With photo.
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Doctoral Pupil & Darren Discover Dino
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 16th, 2007
What’s in your basement? This is an amazing find. Hopefully, a company will make a replica of Xenoposeidon proneneukos for Darren Naish to add to his personal sauropod collection someday. Photos.
Investigate Further: Doctoral Pupil & Darren Discover Dino »
Kangaroo Kryptid Too?
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 16th, 2007
If the reportedly casual appearance of a reddish orangutan seen in trees in Baker County wasn’t enough excitement in Florida, now there are reports of another kind of crypid.
Investigate Further: Kangaroo Kryptid Too? »
Replica Cryptia: Okapis
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 16th, 2007
This prehistoric relative of the giraffe is one of the first “darlings of cryptozoology.” Many photos.
Investigate Further: Replica Cryptia: Okapis »
No Mystery In These Photos
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 15th, 2007
I’ve been getting inquiries about the identification of two objects in some recent photographs. Here are the answers.
Investigate Further: No Mystery In These Photos »
“Bigfooters” Know-It-Alls During Ape Investigations
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 15th, 2007
The unfolding story of the sightings and examination of “orangutan sightings” in Florida has taken a new twist. Apparently at least one self-proclaimed “Bigfoot investigator” from an unidentified “Bigfoot research group” is messing with the local authorities in Florida.
Investigate Further: “Bigfooters” Know-It-Alls During Ape Investigations »
Sasquatch Anatomy
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 15th, 2007
A new article about Professor Jeff Meldrum’s investigations can be found in the December 2007 issue of Scientific American Magazine.
Investigate Further: Sasquatch Anatomy »
Full Schedule of Bigfoot shows starting in January
Sunday night-The Sasquatch Experience, hosted by Sean Forker, Henry May and James Baker, 9:00 EST/8:00 Central, on Blog Talk Radio (The link is to the right)
Monday night-Squatch Detective Radio, hosted by Steve Kulls and Billy Willard, 9:00 EST/8:00 Central, on Blog Talk Radio (The link is to the right)
Tuesday night-Bigfoot Central, hosted by M.K. Davis and Don Monroe, 8:00 EST/7:00 Central (The Link is to the right)
Wednesday night-Let's Talk Bigfoot, hosted by Melissa Hovey and Teresa Hall, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (The link is to the right)
Wednesday night-Bigfoot Live, hosted by Tom Biscardi, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (Link is www.gstreaming.com
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Thursday night-The Sasquatch Triangle, hosted by Don Keating, 9:00 EST/8:00 Central (The link is to the right)
Thursday night-The AARF Show, hosted by Robert W.Morgan, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (The Link is to the right)
Friday night-Bigfoot Chat with Indy and Robin, hosted by Steve "Indy" Pickett and his wife Robin, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central
(The link is to the right)
Monday night-Squatch Detective Radio, hosted by Steve Kulls and Billy Willard, 9:00 EST/8:00 Central, on Blog Talk Radio (The link is to the right)
Tuesday night-Bigfoot Central, hosted by M.K. Davis and Don Monroe, 8:00 EST/7:00 Central (The Link is to the right)
Wednesday night-Let's Talk Bigfoot, hosted by Melissa Hovey and Teresa Hall, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (The link is to the right)
Wednesday night-Bigfoot Live, hosted by Tom Biscardi, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (Link is www.gstreaming.com
)Thursday night-The Sasquatch Triangle, hosted by Don Keating, 9:00 EST/8:00 Central (The link is to the right)
Thursday night-The AARF Show, hosted by Robert W.Morgan, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central (The Link is to the right)
Friday night-Bigfoot Chat with Indy and Robin, hosted by Steve "Indy" Pickett and his wife Robin, 10:00 EST/9:00 Central
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Editorial: Bigfoot Radio comes full-circle
In around 1999 or 2000, the website Artist First based out of Alliance, Ohio started a program called Bigfoot Central, which had the best guests in the Bigfoot field. Field researchers, authors, newsletter organizers, armchair researchers and even the old-timers of the field graced the microphones of the fledgling show. Various hosts passed through the portals of the show-Robert W. Morgan, Loren Coleman, D.L. Tanner and most recently M.K. Davis and Don Monroe. Unfortunately, it all ended in March of 2006 under mysterious circumstances which are still not quite understood to this day, and that began a Bigfoot show revolution on the Internet, more particularly at Blog Talk Radio, where there are no less than 6 shows devoted to the subject which air almost every night of the week, and one on Talkshoe. Well, it has now all come full-circle, with the return of Bigfoot Central this last Tuesday night with hosts M.K. Davis and Don Monroe, who promise that when the show begins in earnest in January 2008, they will once again continue the tradition of excellence in Bigfoot broadcasting with great guests and great topics, and I for one want to thank one man for his initiative to bring the show back, and that is my best friend in the Bigfoot field Mr. Sean Forker. It was his e-mail campaign that inspired the return of the show to the airwaves, and what a great thing he did for the Bigfoot Community. The show promises to be one of the best out there, and I believe it will be. Special mention should most definitely go to the producers at the station, Tony Kay and Scott "Z-Man" Zelesko who heard the cries of the public and responded in kind. With the return of this show, it means there will be a Bigfoot show airing almost every night of the week, so welcome back, Bigfoot Central, and EXCELSIOR!!!!!!
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Article by Daniel Perez
SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, DECEMBER 2007
FINALLY, SOME RESPECT FROM A WELL KNOWN PUBLICATION. A THANK YOU TO DR. JEFF MELDRUM FOR PASSING ALONG THIS INFORMATION. READ ON...
Insights: Bigfoot Anatomy; December 2007; Scientific American Magazine; by Marguerite Holloway; 2 Page(s)
One overcast Sunday morning in 1996, Jeffrey Meldrum and his brother drove to Walla Walla, Wash., to see if they could find Paul Freeman, a man renowned in Bigfoot circles as a source of footprint casts. Meldrum--who has followed Bigfoot lore since he was a boy--had heard that Freeman was a hoaxer, "so I was very dubious," he recalls. The brothers arrived unannounced, Meldrum says, and chatted with Freeman about his collection. Freeman said he had found tracks just that morning, but they were not good, not worth casting. The brothers wanted to see them regardless. "I thought we could use this to study the anatomy of a hoax," Meldrum says. Instead Meldrum's visit to a ridge in the Blue Mountains set him firmly on a quest he has been on since.
Meldrum, an associate professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University, is an expert on foot morphology and locomotion in monkeys, apes and hominids. He has studied the evolution of bipedalism and edited From Biped to Strider (Springer, 2004), a well-respected textbook. He brought his anatomical expertise to the site outside Walla Walla. The 14-inch-long prints Freeman showed him were interesting, Meldrum says, because some turned out at a 45-degree angle, suggesting that whatever made them had looked back over its shoulder. Some showed skin whorls, some were flat with distinct anatomical detail, others were of running feet-imprints of the front part of the foot only, of toes gripping the mud. Meldrum made casts and decided it would be hard to hoax the running footprints, "unless you had some device, some cable-loaded flexible toes."
Article by Daniel Perez
Help Sought
Bigfoot Times subscriber, Mr. Gary Mangiacopra, 7 Arlmont Street, Milford, Connecticut 06461 (203) 874-2275 needs your help. Noted Gary in a postal letter (he does not have e-mail) to me, dated October 16, 2007: "I am working on a biography on Ivan T. Sanderson, and I am trying to obtain from private researchers an copies of correspondence hat they may have received from him, regardless of whatever subject it may have been. And, importantly, anyone who had actually met Sanderson when he was alive, as I am trying to get anyone who had met him to write down their experiences with him, even if it was just once in their lives." Mr. Mangiacopra is also looking for anyone who attended any of the now defunct International Society of Cryptozoology conferences, as Gary would like to get any audio or audio visual tapes and pictures from those conferences. His contact information is noted above. If you can help, get in touch with him. His latest is Does Champ Exist? Published just recently by Coachwhip Publications in Landisville, Pennsylvania or go to www.coachwhipbooks.com
Doughnut trap is set for `Baby Bigfoot'
(AP) -- State wildlife officials are hoping doughnuts will lure an orangutan into the open in this town near Jacksonville.
Residents have reported seeing a ''big orange ball of fur,'' said Karen Parker, a spokeswoman for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
Wildlife officers can't confirm the furball is actually a large primate, though a Baker County animal control officer claimed she saw an orange-colored ape ''much larger than a spider monkey'' sitting in a tree. Some residents speculate it may only be a squirrel. Others think it may be a ``baby Bigfoot.''
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However, it is only in the most arboreal great ape, the orangutan, that hip extension in bipedalism overlaps that seen in humans, at 180° to 215°. ...
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But no known ape--fossil or extant--possesses the postcranial features associated with human-like bipedalism, and to anticipate that any number of years of ...
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Baby Bobobo Makes 2
NBC Sandiego.com - San Diego,CA,USA
SAN DIEGO -- Zookeepers at the San Diego Zoo's nursery now have a second infant of the world's most critically endangered great ape species to care for. ...
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Beyond The Edge Radio Tonight...
Sean and Eric will have pioneering UFO researcher Stanton Friedman as their guest starting at 9:00 EST/8:00 Central at the link to the right. As always, we do encourage you to please tune in and support great research.
Review: Sasquatch Triangle 11-15-07
This was a wonderful show, with guest Richard J. LaMonica discussing his research in the Buckeye State, as well as the audio recording he got of what is known as The Ohio Talker which sounds very similar to Native American dialect. They also discussed a couple of audio recordings taken by Don and Phillip Brocco which were also played on the air, as was the LaMonica recording. Many questions were fielded from the chatroom as well. It was a great show, but will be the last Thursday night show till early-January, as Don is taking a short break till then. However, The other SQuatchMEDIA productions will carry on, The Sasquatch Experience on Sunday nights at 9:00 EST/8:00 Central and Beyond The Edge Radio Friday nights at 9:00 EST/8:00 Central, and we are holding the chair open for Don till his return. Until then, the other SQuatchMEDIA shows will continue to air. Please continue to tune in and support great research.
Review: Monsterquest 11-14-07
This episode took us to the Sea of Cortez in Mexico in search of the Giant Squid. Apparently the native Pangueros have had a fear of what they call the El Domonio Rojo, the Red Devil, also known as the Humboldt Squid, which can get as big as a school bus. It is thought to be a man-killer. Richard Ellis is interviewed on the show, as well as researchers Scott Cassell and Roger Hanlon of the Marine Biological Laboratory. Cassell shares an experience in which a 5-foot long Humboldt Squid pulled his shoulder out of its socket, and he also ruptured his right eardrum. Doug Hajicek hopes to put a camera down in the depths of the sea to film one of the giant squid. The giant squid may be the inspiration for the legendary Kraken as well. Ellis dismisses quite a few of the attack stories as far as the Kraken taking sailors off the decks of ships or pulling people off shore. Jeff Zernov of Nature Vision, Incorporated is rather skeptical of the cameras working to get a giant squid on film. Dale Pearson is interviewed as well as the lead diver of the team. All in all, a wonderful episode of this new series. Next week, the subject is giant birds, Known as Birdzilla. The show begins at 10:00 EST/9:00 Central on the History Channel, so check your local listings for time and channel.
Bill Green's Review of Bigfooting In Oklahoma
hey researchers i just finished watching bigfooting in oklahoma documentary omg its wonderful its like a sequel to bigfootville if not better . jmichael & ester did a wonderful job putting this new documentary dvd together. alot eyewiitnesses testimonys & possible sasquatch evidence in this new documentary. i give this new documentary A+++++ . yes this new documentary dvd is definetly worth it for any sasquatch-bigfoot-cryptozoology researchers dvd library. its available to order on amazon.com. good afternoon bill green 
Officers from the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FFWCC) are trying to capture what they believe is an orangutan in the woods of Baker County. With video. Also, Baker Sightings Have Residents Talking Bigfoot.
What's in Your Genes? Ancient Parasites LiveScience
Part of the explanation for genetic activity in the human body is due to ancient man's experience with invading organisms, according to new reports. Did ancient retroviruses insert DNA into the genes of man's primate ancestors millions of years ago?
Shunka Warak’in Taxidermy Specimen Found!
Posted by: Loren Coleman on November 15th, 2007
This is remarkable news. The cryptid canine has been re-located and will be returning home after 121 years. Perhaps DNA testing will soon follow, and a solution to the mystery will be forthcoming. Images.
Investigate Further: Shunka Warak’in Taxidermy Specimen Found! »
Hoaxes and Hoaxers: Culpeper, Part 5 The Blogsquatcher
Continuing the dissection of a Bigfoot hoaxing plot and the personalities taking part in this counterproductive enterprise.
Review: Let's Talk Bigfoot 11-14-07
This was a wonderful show, with guests Monica Rawlins, Kathy and Bob Strain, Brian Brown, John Witherspoon and Jerry Reidel, who discussed their impressions of the 2006 and 2007 Skookum Meadows expeditions (the 2006 expedition will be the focus of the upcoming episode of Monsterquest November 28th), as well as about the Jacobs Photos, the recent TBRC Conference (which a majority of the panel attended) and their impression of that event. Several questions came in from the chat as well. It was a fun, relaxed show, full of great laughs. The next show will be next Wednesday at 10:00 EST/9:00 Central with Billy Willard of Sasquatch Watch of Virginia, and the link can be found to the right. As always, we encourage you to please tune in and support great research.
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Sasquatch Triangle Tonight...
Don will have Rich LaMonica, a local Ohio researcher known for his recording the Ohio Talker. Don has also promised a bombshell announcement of some sort. The show begins at 9:00 EST/8:00 Central at the link to the right. As always, we do encourage you to please tune in and support great research.
Review: The XZone 11-14-07
I was the guest for this hour, in which I discussed a bit about the Monsterquest show in which the alleged DNA was collected, as well as a little bit about the old chestnut the P/G Movie (Rob asked me about it, so I responded). I was asked about what would be required as far as scientific study and equipment to be used, and I responded that it needs more forensics study. Tom Lancaster called in and discussed the matter of lack of funding when it comes to this field, and Billy Willard also called in and gave his opinion on how this hunt should be about Bigfoot, not personalities. It was a wonderful show, full of great info, and I enjoyed myself. Rob is ever the gentleman host.
Snake hunt
Devon 24 - UK
They will also be looking for the Didi, a Bigfoot-type creature, and the Water Tiger, famed across South America for its ferocity. ...
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Small towns and tall pines of East Texas sometimes hide fugitives
Houston Chronicle - United States
If they were, count the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy among those impressed with the Murphey's choice. Eighty percent of sasquatch sightings the group ...
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007
Part 4
Let's close this chapter of 2007...
After a short break, we reconvened to toast the film and the men who made the film. The champagne was generously provided by Terry Smith of Long Beach, CA and from here on the celebration lived up to its name. Mary-Anne McTrowe who had traveled to the event with her husband entertained us with two incredibly witty bigfoot songs accompanying herself on the ukulele. Both were about the Patterson-Gimlin subject and both took jabs at the naysayers. This was a surprise highlight of the afternoon. I then played a few verses of Buddy Knox’s unreleased bigfoot song.
Daniel Perez returned for a question and answer session and James “Bobo” Fay took some time to tell us about Irwin Supple, a man he befriended in the late 1980s who had bigfoot experiences in the area dating back to 1947. Irwin Supple actually had heard of the creatures back in his Army training days at the Presidio in San Francisco. An incredible story of a cavalry unit chasing one in the mountains of southern New Mexico in the 1930s was told to him and his unit stationed along the Mendocino Coast at the beginning of World War II encountered one as well. Bobo’s talk was informal and interrupted by frequent questions from the crowd. They seemed just as interested to ask Bobo an opinion on something bigfoot related as they did to hear his talk.
We spent the rest of the afternoon talking bigfoot and enjoying the company of some dedicated individuals – dedicated enough to be in Willow Creek this day. I played my unreleased song “John Green” and pointed out a letter to the gathering from Dmitri Bayanov. We lingered at the hall until well into the evening when we broke away to grab a bite to eat. Some of us decided to take advantage of a break in the whether and followed Cliff and Thom Powell to Louse Camp two hours away. We spent the next two nights camped along Bluff Creek. A very appropriate way to cap off our celebration! (we'll save those stories for another thread..)
THANKS!!
Thanks to all who participated in this historic occasion…Thom Powell made the event possible with his computer projector – and Mark Stenberg brought along an essential back-up projector! Scott McClean provided his computer and worked it all day during the presentations – and also designed the event poster, co-designed and produced the event commemorative t-shirt and printed out a plethora of articles for display…Cliff Barackman provided the PA system and had footprint casts on display. David Murphy made excellent displays about Roger Patterson. Daniel Perez brought relevant items to share and sold his “Bigfoot at Bluff Creek” booklet for 67 cents…Robert Leiterman, Bart Cutino, and Mark Stenberg helped with the set-up at the hall…and Terry for the bubbly...Bart for the non-al alternative...Joyce Kearney and yours truly organized the event. Phew! It was fantastic…glad we did it…see you in 5 years!
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there are about 20 t-shirts left...(XL and 3 L's)
I post a blog at www.bigfootsongs.com about how to order one...tomorrow.
we need to sell about 15 to break even on this wild celebration...
they'll be going for $15 plus $6 p/h...'cause I'm paying for the delivery confirmation, too.
Dear friends,
Greetings to you from Russian hominologists in Moscow!
I am glad that you and we are celebrating the 40th Anniversary of this historic event jointly in thought and feeling, though physically apart many thousands of miles. We started the tradition of celebrating the film's anniversaries back in 1977, marking the 10th anniversary by a well-attended session of our Hominology seminar in the Darwin Museum (you can read about it and see the photograph in the book America's Bigfoot: Fact, Not Fiction - U.S. Evidence Verified in Russia. The book is devoted to and deals with our study and verification of the Patterson/Gimlin documentary).
We also celebrated the 20th anniversary in 1987 by a similar gathering in the Museum. You can also read about it in the same book, chapter Celebrations in Moscow.
Then to mark the 30th anniversary, in 1997, we organized something bigger - an International Conference, attended by Grover Krantz from the U.S. and John Green from Canada. This event is depicted in my new book, to be published this month, entitled Bigfoot Research - The Russian Vision.
Now, for the first time, celebrations are held simultaneously in Russia and America, and this is great.
A novice in our investigation may ask: What's so special about this seven-meter strip of cellulose that makes us celebrate its anniversaries? This is how I answered this question in our report read at the 1978 Sasquatch Conference in Vancouver:
"Until October 1967, we had lots of information on relict hominoids but they remained inaccessible to the investigators' sense of vision. We were dealing then with the underwater part of the 'iceberg', as it were. October 1967 was the time when the fog cleared and the tip of the iceberg came into view." And I added, now we "know how such a biped looks and how it walks, this knowledge being available now to anyone who wants to use their eyes..."
The validity of that statement depended, of course, on the truthfulness of the film, on its authenticity. So when was this first established and firmly and publicly stated for the benefit and knowledge of the scientific community? In 1972, Rene Dahinden presented us with two copies of the footage, and in 1973, after a thorough study of it, we found the documentary true, which was announced in Dahinden's book, and repeated by us in the December 1974 issue of Current Anthropology, the leading world journal of the sciences of man.
Did any mainstream scientist in the world, and in America in particular, pay attention to that and check our claim? Nothing of the sort. It was only 18 years later, in 1992, that Grover Krantz announced his analysis of the footage and also declared it genuine. Still, in 2000, Professor Philip Lieberman, of Brown University, wrote me the following: "The supposed Bigfoot film appeared to primate specialists to be that of a human walking, wearing a crudely modified ape costume." That is 33 years after the film was taken and 28 years after we in Moscow verified its authenticity. With reference to the International Society of Cryptozoology, based in your country, which organization's direct duty was to study and evaluate the Patterson/Gimlin movie, which it never did, I commented, "U.S. cryptozoologists have hidden the truth of the Bigfoot documentary not only from themselves but also from the whole of America."
If on this solemn occasion you don't mind my further recalling and sharing with you what I said in the past about the Patterson/Gimlin film, I will continue.
The first Bigfoot documentary film will always retain a special place, not only in Bigfoot research but also in the history of science in general. Why was it rejected in America in the first place? Why turned down in England? Why proven authentic in Russia? Why is it still being rejected in America? The shortest answer is in the word hominology. The analyst had to take a scientific approach in examining the film before accepting or debunking it. A scientific approach of what science? The answer is hominology. Bigfoot was unknown to science because there was no science to know it. Back in the 1970s, Russia had already a tiny team of hominologists who tested and verified the film in a scientific manner. The world outside Russia had no such specialists at the time and the documentary was inevitably rejected.
As for aspiring debunkers, one of the arrogant ones is British TV presenter Chris Packham, who ahead of Greg Long and Heironimus attempted in vain to re-enact the Bigfoot movie. In a September 1998 BBC Wildlife magazine article, titled "Bigfoot - Proof or Spoof?", he said that he and colleagues "talked to special-effects experts, who laughed at the simplicity of the suit. They produced one, and we re-enacted the encounter precisely, to the centimeter. We re-shot it using the same type of camera."
As a result, the Packham film shows with brilliant clarity that, with a monkey suit on, "a man's a man for a'that!"
To complete his mission, the TV presenter used the hospitality extended to him by the late Roger Patterson's wife, Patricia Patterson, for what Packham describes as "pawing through the perpetrator's personal effects, his wallet, his phone book, his letters, and photographs." Packham says that when he found what he sought, "My heart nearly leapt from my chest." But, "In a way, it was a huge anticlimax. I remember, - he said, - walking to the car feeling I had the blood of the Bigfoot legend all over my hands."
What compromising evidence did the TV presenter turned detective find among Patterson's personal effects that killed the Bigfoot legend? He wouldn't say. It's a secret.
This writer and film analyst is sure that a huge anticlimax for Chris Packham is still to come, and that his feeling of triumph in Mrs. Patterson's home was caused by an illusion. As any genuine (not fake) researcher of the Bigfoot film knows, its subject is unassailable, because it is made by Nature, not man. It is as true as the Earth is round.
"A stake protrudes from the bleeding heart of Bigfoot, from cryptozoology itself," boasted Packham. In fact, a stake protrudes from the bleeding reputation of the TV presenter who boldly staged an act of verbal hari-kari.
Another aspiring debunker, anthropologist Dr. David Daegling, in his book Bigfoot Exposed, says on p.205 that "Skeptical inquiry into the film has made significant strides since 1967." Actually, it hasn't moved an inch. On the contrary, all aspiring debunkers of the film over the past decades have been exposed and defeated, and not a single proof or argument put forward by us for the film's authenticity has been refuted.
Fed up with the opponents' monkey business, we at the International Center of Hominology in Moscow, in May 2004, made an announcement and offered $100,000 to anyone who can successfully demonstrate to a panel of hominologists and anthropologists that the Patterson/Gimlin film shows a human being in a special suit. Our offer is based on the security of the equipment, vehicles, and intellectual property of our organization. So far no application has been filed.
Now some words about the Bluff Creek heroes of October 20th, 1967. The famous film resulted not only from a fluke, but also from Roger Patterson's dedication, courage, resourcefulness, and adroitness. Quite a few other people, with cameras, have chanced to encounter a Bigfoot, but none has managed so far to rival Patterson's achievement. I can imagine any number of people, myself included, in Patterson's shoes at Bluff Creek, coming back empty handed. No doubt, his action was a feat of investigation.
As for Robert Gimlin, I love what Greg Long says about him in his book on p.159. He says that film producer Robert Guenette was one among many who offered Gimlin large amounts of money to "tell the truth" about what "really" happened that day. Gimlin's answer was, "I'm already telling the truth."
I commented: Noble Gimlin, I embrace you in my thoughts... How proud I am that you count me among your friends, how lucky I am to have mixed all along with people of your make, not that of Heironimus and his patrons. If only most people stood up for the truth as strongly as you.
As for the Bigfoot movie, it calls for action in two aspects: scientific and humanitarian. I wrote to Grover Krantz in 1982: "It's a crime against science and common sense that the film has not been studied by science in Patterson's own country." Grover agreed with me on this point. Regarding the humanitarian aspect, it's a shame and disgrace for America to have let Roger Patterson die without his exploit having been recognized and awarded. It's a shame and disgrace for America to have let the names of Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin be mocked and slandered for decades by unscrupulous glory vultures. I wonder how long such shameless violation of human rights in America can be tolerated.
But be sure, we shall overcome some day.
So don't worry. Be happy!
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After a short break, we reconvened to toast the film and the men who made the film. The champagne was generously provided by Terry Smith of Long Beach, CA and from here on the celebration lived up to its name. Mary-Anne McTrowe who had traveled to the event with her husband entertained us with two incredibly witty bigfoot songs accompanying herself on the ukulele. Both were about the Patterson-Gimlin subject and both took jabs at the naysayers. This was a surprise highlight of the afternoon. I then played a few verses of Buddy Knox’s unreleased bigfoot song.
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Daniel Perez returned for a question and answer session and James “Bobo” Fay took some time to tell us about Irwin Supple, a man he befriended in the late 1980s who had bigfoot experiences in the area dating back to 1947. Irwin Supple actually had heard of the creatures back in his Army training days at the Presidio in San Francisco. An incredible story of a cavalry unit chasing one in the mountains of southern New Mexico in the 1930s was told to him and his unit stationed along the Mendocino Coast at the beginning of World War II encountered one as well. Bobo’s talk was informal and interrupted by frequent questions from the crowd. They seemed just as interested to ask Bobo an opinion on something bigfoot related as they did to hear his talk.
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We spent the rest of the afternoon talking bigfoot and enjoying the company of some dedicated individuals – dedicated enough to be in Willow Creek this day. I played my unreleased song “John Green” and pointed out a letter to the gathering from Dmitri Bayanov. We lingered at the hall until well into the evening when we broke away to grab a bite to eat. Some of us decided to take advantage of a break in the whether and followed Cliff and Thom Powell to Louse Camp two hours away. We spent the next two nights camped along Bluff Creek. A very appropriate way to cap off our celebration! (we'll save those stories for another thread..)
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THANKS!!
Thanks to all who participated in this historic occasion…Thom Powell made the event possible with his computer projector – and Mark Stenberg brought along an essential back-up projector! Scott McClean provided his computer and worked it all day during the presentations – and also designed the event poster, co-designed and produced the event commemorative t-shirt and printed out a plethora of articles for display…Cliff Barackman provided the PA system and had footprint casts on display. David Murphy made excellent displays about Roger Patterson. Daniel Perez brought relevant items to share and sold his “Bigfoot at Bluff Creek” booklet for 67 cents…Robert Leiterman, Bart Cutino, and Mark Stenberg helped with the set-up at the hall…and Terry for the bubbly...Bart for the non-al alternative...Joyce Kearney and yours truly organized the event. Phew! It was fantastic…glad we did it…see you in 5 years!
P.S.
there are about 20 t-shirts left...(XL and 3 L's)
I post a blog at www.bigfootsongs.com about how to order one...tomorrow.
we need to sell about 15 to break even on this wild celebration...
they'll be going for $15 plus $6 p/h...'cause I'm paying for the delivery confirmation, too.
ADDRESS sent by
Dmitri Bayanov, science director
International Center of Hominology
Moscow, Russia
to
Colleagues celebrating 40th Anniversary
of
the Patterson/Gimlin Bigfoot Documentary
in Willow Creek, Northern California
Dmitri Bayanov, science director
International Center of Hominology
Moscow, Russia
to
Colleagues celebrating 40th Anniversary
of
the Patterson/Gimlin Bigfoot Documentary
in Willow Creek, Northern California
Dear friends,
Greetings to you from Russian hominologists in Moscow!
I am glad that you and we are celebrating the 40th Anniversary of this historic event jointly in thought and feeling, though physically apart many thousands of miles. We started the tradition of celebrating the film's anniversaries back in 1977, marking the 10th anniversary by a well-attended session of our Hominology seminar in the Darwin Museum (you can read about it and see the photograph in the book America's Bigfoot: Fact, Not Fiction - U.S. Evidence Verified in Russia. The book is devoted to and deals with our study and verification of the Patterson/Gimlin documentary).
We also celebrated the 20th anniversary in 1987 by a similar gathering in the Museum. You can also read about it in the same book, chapter Celebrations in Moscow.
Then to mark the 30th anniversary, in 1997, we organized something bigger - an International Conference, attended by Grover Krantz from the U.S. and John Green from Canada. This event is depicted in my new book, to be published this month, entitled Bigfoot Research - The Russian Vision.
Now, for the first time, celebrations are held simultaneously in Russia and America, and this is great.
A novice in our investigation may ask: What's so special about this seven-meter strip of cellulose that makes us celebrate its anniversaries? This is how I answered this question in our report read at the 1978 Sasquatch Conference in Vancouver:
"Until October 1967, we had lots of information on relict hominoids but they remained inaccessible to the investigators' sense of vision. We were dealing then with the underwater part of the 'iceberg', as it were. October 1967 was the time when the fog cleared and the tip of the iceberg came into view." And I added, now we "know how such a biped looks and how it walks, this knowledge being available now to anyone who wants to use their eyes..."
The validity of that statement depended, of course, on the truthfulness of the film, on its authenticity. So when was this first established and firmly and publicly stated for the benefit and knowledge of the scientific community? In 1972, Rene Dahinden presented us with two copies of the footage, and in 1973, after a thorough study of it, we found the documentary true, which was announced in Dahinden's book, and repeated by us in the December 1974 issue of Current Anthropology, the leading world journal of the sciences of man.
Did any mainstream scientist in the world, and in America in particular, pay attention to that and check our claim? Nothing of the sort. It was only 18 years later, in 1992, that Grover Krantz announced his analysis of the footage and also declared it genuine. Still, in 2000, Professor Philip Lieberman, of Brown University, wrote me the following: "The supposed Bigfoot film appeared to primate specialists to be that of a human walking, wearing a crudely modified ape costume." That is 33 years after the film was taken and 28 years after we in Moscow verified its authenticity. With reference to the International Society of Cryptozoology, based in your country, which organization's direct duty was to study and evaluate the Patterson/Gimlin movie, which it never did, I commented, "U.S. cryptozoologists have hidden the truth of the Bigfoot documentary not only from themselves but also from the whole of America."
If on this solemn occasion you don't mind my further recalling and sharing with you what I said in the past about the Patterson/Gimlin film, I will continue.
The first Bigfoot documentary film will always retain a special place, not only in Bigfoot research but also in the history of science in general. Why was it rejected in America in the first place? Why turned down in England? Why proven authentic in Russia? Why is it still being rejected in America? The shortest answer is in the word hominology. The analyst had to take a scientific approach in examining the film before accepting or debunking it. A scientific approach of what science? The answer is hominology. Bigfoot was unknown to science because there was no science to know it. Back in the 1970s, Russia had already a tiny team of hominologists who tested and verified the film in a scientific manner. The world outside Russia had no such specialists at the time and the documentary was inevitably rejected.
As for aspiring debunkers, one of the arrogant ones is British TV presenter Chris Packham, who ahead of Greg Long and Heironimus attempted in vain to re-enact the Bigfoot movie. In a September 1998 BBC Wildlife magazine article, titled "Bigfoot - Proof or Spoof?", he said that he and colleagues "talked to special-effects experts, who laughed at the simplicity of the suit. They produced one, and we re-enacted the encounter precisely, to the centimeter. We re-shot it using the same type of camera."
As a result, the Packham film shows with brilliant clarity that, with a monkey suit on, "a man's a man for a'that!"
To complete his mission, the TV presenter used the hospitality extended to him by the late Roger Patterson's wife, Patricia Patterson, for what Packham describes as "pawing through the perpetrator's personal effects, his wallet, his phone book, his letters, and photographs." Packham says that when he found what he sought, "My heart nearly leapt from my chest." But, "In a way, it was a huge anticlimax. I remember, - he said, - walking to the car feeling I had the blood of the Bigfoot legend all over my hands."
What compromising evidence did the TV presenter turned detective find among Patterson's personal effects that killed the Bigfoot legend? He wouldn't say. It's a secret.
This writer and film analyst is sure that a huge anticlimax for Chris Packham is still to come, and that his feeling of triumph in Mrs. Patterson's home was caused by an illusion. As any genuine (not fake) researcher of the Bigfoot film knows, its subject is unassailable, because it is made by Nature, not man. It is as true as the Earth is round.
"A stake protrudes from the bleeding heart of Bigfoot, from cryptozoology itself," boasted Packham. In fact, a stake protrudes from the bleeding reputation of the TV presenter who boldly staged an act of verbal hari-kari.
Another aspiring debunker, anthropologist Dr. David Daegling, in his book Bigfoot Exposed, says on p.205 that "Skeptical inquiry into the film has made significant strides since 1967." Actually, it hasn't moved an inch. On the contrary, all aspiring debunkers of the film over the past decades have been exposed and defeated, and not a single proof or argument put forward by us for the film's authenticity has been refuted.
Fed up with the opponents' monkey business, we at the International Center of Hominology in Moscow, in May 2004, made an announcement and offered $100,000 to anyone who can successfully demonstrate to a panel of hominologists and anthropologists that the Patterson/Gimlin film shows a human being in a special suit. Our offer is based on the security of the equipment, vehicles, and intellectual property of our organization. So far no application has been filed.
Now some words about the Bluff Creek heroes of October 20th, 1967. The famous film resulted not only from a fluke, but also from Roger Patterson's dedication, courage, resourcefulness, and adroitness. Quite a few other people, with cameras, have chanced to encounter a Bigfoot, but none has managed so far to rival Patterson's achievement. I can imagine any number of people, myself included, in Patterson's shoes at Bluff Creek, coming back empty handed. No doubt, his action was a feat of investigation.
As for Robert Gimlin, I love what Greg Long says about him in his book on p.159. He says that film producer Robert Guenette was one among many who offered Gimlin large amounts of money to "tell the truth" about what "really" happened that day. Gimlin's answer was, "I'm already telling the truth."
I commented: Noble Gimlin, I embrace you in my thoughts... How proud I am that you count me among your friends, how lucky I am to have mixed all along with people of your make, not that of Heironimus and his patrons. If only most people stood up for the truth as strongly as you.
As for the Bigfoot movie, it calls for action in two aspects: scientific and humanitarian. I wrote to Grover Krantz in 1982: "It's a crime against science and common sense that the film has not been studied by science in Patterson's own country." Grover agreed with me on this point. Regarding the humanitarian aspect, it's a shame and disgrace for America to have let Roger Patterson die without his exploit having been recognized and awarded. It's a shame and disgrace for America to have let the names of Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin be mocked and slandered for decades by unscrupulous glory vultures. I wonder how long such shameless violation of human rights in America can be tolerated.
But be sure, we shall overcome some day.
So don't worry. Be happy!
Dmitri Bayanov
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